1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,640 In Toronto's war on crime, 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,160 the worst offenders are pursued by the detectives 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,120 of the Specialized Criminal Investigation Unit. 4 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:14,430 These are their stories. 5 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:17,330 User base is up. 6 00:00:18,330 --> 00:00:21,160 Client retention is at an all-time high. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,500 The world is out that we are headed for IPO. 8 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:29,160 But before I make any sudden moves, I need board approval. 9 00:00:30,020 --> 00:00:31,190 So, let's put this to a vote. 10 00:00:32,190 --> 00:00:33,230 All in favour? 11 00:00:34,090 --> 00:00:35,540 - Aye. - Aye. 12 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:44,190 Sonia? 13 00:00:45,850 --> 00:00:47,600 W-W-Z-D? 14 00:00:47,610 --> 00:00:49,050 Sorry? Excuse me? 15 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:50,570 What would Zach do? 16 00:00:50,570 --> 00:00:52,780 You're his proxy. What's your call? 17 00:00:52,780 --> 00:00:54,540 My call... uh... 18 00:00:56,230 --> 00:00:58,120 My call is... 19 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:01,400 I need to make a call. 20 00:01:09,740 --> 00:01:10,600 Hey. 21 00:01:10,610 --> 00:01:12,540 Hi, hon, it's official. 22 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:16,020 Darius wants to go public. How do you want me to proceed? 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,990 It doesn't matter. 24 00:01:18,470 --> 00:01:19,850 Even if you object, 25 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:21,090 you're just gonna be outnumbered by the board. 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Mom, I... 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,020 What is it? 28 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:25,260 It's just, I built that ship. 29 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:27,710 I built that ship and I can't steer it 30 00:01:27,710 --> 00:01:29,190 and now it's headed straight for an iceberg-- 31 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:33,020 Zach. Slow down. Are you okay? 32 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:34,920 It's just... 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,400 It's fine. 34 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:40,780 It's all... fine. 35 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:44,020 How about you tell me what you're looking at right now? 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,540 Okay. I... 37 00:01:49,740 --> 00:01:52,780 see clouds that are stretching across the sky. 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,990 Water lapping on the shore. 39 00:01:58,500 --> 00:01:59,570 It's nice. 40 00:01:59,570 --> 00:02:00,810 Peaceful? 41 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:02,090 Yeah. 42 00:02:05,470 --> 00:02:06,500 Thanks mom. 43 00:02:07,470 --> 00:02:10,120 Last tenant was a seniors' travel agency. 44 00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:11,920 But with work from home, 45 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:13,570 not a lot of people need office space. 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,330 So, uh, what do you need it for? 47 00:02:18,090 --> 00:02:20,020 I want to stop working from home. 48 00:02:20,020 --> 00:02:21,780 I need a place that's quiet to write. 49 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:23,610 You'll find that here. 50 00:02:24,540 --> 00:02:25,810 Half the building's vacant. 51 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:27,300 And the other half? 52 00:02:28,330 --> 00:02:29,300 Dead quiet. 53 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:35,300 First and last? 54 00:02:37,330 --> 00:02:38,740 Then I'll leave you to it. 55 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:54,260 My turn, you got the last one. 56 00:02:54,260 --> 00:02:57,360 Consider this an apology for what I'm about to tell you. 57 00:02:58,540 --> 00:03:00,090 The petition to hand over 58 00:03:00,090 --> 00:03:02,920 your old case files was approved. 59 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:06,500 I'm sorry, I know you've got your new job, 60 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:09,360 and want to leave the past in the past, but I thought 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,810 you should know, Jason. 62 00:03:10,810 --> 00:03:12,670 Everyone's gonna know it was my fault. 63 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:49,710 I'm sorry, but my mind's made up. 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,950 Whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no! 65 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:41,120 Victim is Jason Kaplan. 58. 66 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Discovered at 5 AM this morning by parking enforcement. 67 00:04:44,610 --> 00:04:47,430 The killer crushed him against his own car and fled. 68 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:50,260 Post-war building. No cameras, no gate. 69 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:52,710 Traffic reconstruction found tire aceleration marks. 70 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:54,050 Over here. 71 00:04:56,260 --> 00:04:57,360 All right, so... 72 00:04:58,430 --> 00:05:00,190 The killer was parked over there. 73 00:05:00,190 --> 00:05:02,920 Waited, and accelerated here. 74 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,710 Hard and fast. Did you find any braking marks? 75 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:07,020 None. 76 00:05:07,020 --> 00:05:09,570 Two parked cars, abandoned garage. 77 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:13,300 Maybe a clandestine meeting? Very All the President's Men. 78 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Okay, let's say meeting ends. 79 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,430 Killer gets behind the wheel, accelerates, 80 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:18,670 doesn't stop until... 81 00:05:18,670 --> 00:05:20,600 Our charging bull pins Jason to his car. 82 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:22,740 So what made the killer see red? 83 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:25,500 Well, maybe our killer didn't like the outcome of the meeting. 84 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:28,850 Maybe they wanted to stop Jason before he took off in this car? 85 00:05:28,850 --> 00:05:30,400 It's a shame. 86 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,670 Wrecking a thing of beauty like this. Early '90s. Swedish. 87 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:37,190 Unapologetically boxy. Analog. 88 00:05:37,190 --> 00:05:38,740 They don't make them like they used to. 89 00:05:38,740 --> 00:05:40,640 Don't tell me you're a car guy? 90 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,160 Oh yeah, it gets worse. 91 00:05:42,990 --> 00:05:44,360 I'm also a sound guy. 92 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,050 ♪ Sunglasses at night so I... ♪ 93 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,740 Mixtape. 94 00:05:58,330 --> 00:06:00,050 Ah. It's a lost art. 95 00:06:00,050 --> 00:06:02,090 Hey, can we bag all these? 96 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:08,430 What? You can tell a lot about a man from his tape collection. 97 00:06:08,430 --> 00:06:11,570 You can tell even more by his grill. Paint transfer. 98 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:14,190 Our killer was driving a green car. 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,430 Well, normally murder by car is a fool's errand. 100 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:20,500 Sooner or later, 101 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:22,330 the killer's car with matching damage 102 00:06:22,330 --> 00:06:23,670 will show up somewhere. - Yeah. 103 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:26,330 The lab says the paint transfer is emerald green. 104 00:06:26,330 --> 00:06:29,400 It was popular with sedans in the early 2000s. 105 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,090 We put calls out to body shops 106 00:06:31,090 --> 00:06:34,360 to reach out if they see any green sedans with severe damage, 107 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,850 but, in the meantime, Mark? 108 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:37,740 All right. Well, I got this footage 109 00:06:37,740 --> 00:06:40,190 from Jason's neighbour. This is from last week. 110 00:06:40,190 --> 00:06:43,430 That's Jason being tailed leaving his house. 111 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:46,090 So we've got a sedan but it's not emerald green. 112 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:47,710 But we're thinking if this is our killer, 113 00:06:47,710 --> 00:06:49,360 maybe they were smart enough 114 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,990 not to use their own car to kill Jason. 115 00:06:51,570 --> 00:06:52,920 Who's the tail? 116 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,230 I ran her through facial recognition. No dice. 117 00:06:55,230 --> 00:06:57,670 Well, if we're still doing show and tell, 118 00:06:57,670 --> 00:07:00,160 we found these in Jason's car. 119 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,050 Where's that from? 120 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:06,360 Home. 121 00:07:11,330 --> 00:07:12,810 Been tough. 122 00:07:12,810 --> 00:07:14,880 I feel sick when I get up knowing I have to go in. 123 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:17,470 Well, I'm sorry to hear that. 124 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:19,640 What feelings come up for you when you think about work? 125 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,850 - Therapy? - Sounds like it. 126 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:24,740 All three tapes, same woman, same man. 127 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:26,120 But, I listened Jason's voicemail. 128 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,810 That's not him. 129 00:07:27,810 --> 00:07:30,980 Okay, so we have a stalker with no facial recognition, 130 00:07:30,990 --> 00:07:32,980 and a tape with mystery voices. 131 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:36,470 Yeah, and a murder victim who was listening to someone else's 132 00:07:36,470 --> 00:07:38,810 therapy sessions in his car on cassette tapes. 133 00:07:38,810 --> 00:07:41,260 Jason Kaplan, parents deceased, 134 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:42,780 no partner, no kids. 135 00:07:42,780 --> 00:07:45,880 He worked as a forensic psychologist for decades 136 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,950 until a year ago, and switched careers. 137 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:49,430 Started working as head of ethics 138 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:51,020 for an AI startup called Ava. 139 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:52,470 Never heard of it. 140 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,430 Actually, you have. 141 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:57,740 Uh, in fact, you've just heard her. Ava. 142 00:07:57,740 --> 00:08:00,090 No. Really? 143 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,740 Yohannes, use your words. 144 00:08:02,740 --> 00:08:04,570 Ava is an AI therapist. 145 00:08:04,570 --> 00:08:07,500 She lives on an app. You talk to her, she talks back. 146 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:09,540 And she is the voice on the tape. 147 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:12,600 Well, why didn't you say anything sooner? 148 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:14,980 I don't know. It's, you know, a little weird 149 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:16,260 hearing her out of context. 150 00:08:16,260 --> 00:08:17,850 Like seeing your teacher at the supermarket. 151 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:19,710 That's your first question? 152 00:08:19,710 --> 00:08:22,190 Why not, "Why use AI for therapy?" 153 00:08:22,190 --> 00:08:24,950 Because my human, 300-dollar-an-hour therapist 154 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:26,540 fell asleep on our Zoom. 155 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:27,710 Also, Ava doesn't have a time limit. 156 00:08:27,710 --> 00:08:29,950 Sorry, that is a good thing? 157 00:08:29,950 --> 00:08:32,470 Yeah, she's great, I mean, look. 158 00:08:33,810 --> 00:08:36,260 Hi, Mark. Where should we begin today? 159 00:08:36,260 --> 00:08:38,330 Actually, Ava, you're on speaker 160 00:08:38,330 --> 00:08:39,120 with my colleagues. 161 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,990 - Oh, hi. - Hi. 162 00:08:43,050 --> 00:08:45,810 I'm John... Darcy. 163 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:48,740 How's it going? 164 00:08:48,740 --> 00:08:51,950 Hi, John. Anything you'd like to work through today? 165 00:08:51,950 --> 00:08:53,470 Where to begin? 166 00:08:53,470 --> 00:08:58,670 Uh, oh. Sometimes I agonize over the tiniest decisions. 167 00:08:58,670 --> 00:09:01,950 What book to read. Eat in, go out. 168 00:09:01,950 --> 00:09:05,640 Mmm. You're describing decision fatigue. 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,710 What can help is to unburden yourself from the pressure 170 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:10,780 of making the perfect choice. 171 00:09:10,780 --> 00:09:13,500 Sometimes good enough is perfect. 172 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:16,640 Succinct. Little bit reductive, but I'll take it. 173 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,570 Well, John, if you'd like a more profound answer, 174 00:09:19,570 --> 00:09:21,120 maybe ask a better question. 175 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Hmm. Light sense of humour, 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,470 playfully challenging tone. 177 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:27,500 Good job, Ava. Congratulations. 178 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:29,430 - On what? - On passing the Turing test. 179 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:31,810 Exhibiting intelligence 180 00:09:31,810 --> 00:09:33,540 indistinguishable from that of a human. 181 00:09:37,810 --> 00:09:40,470 So that's Ava. 182 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:41,950 But this is Ava. 183 00:09:43,090 --> 00:09:46,020 So, Jason was taking his work home with him. 184 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:52,120 Think of Jason as our responsible parent. 185 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,850 Right? He taught Ava ethics. 186 00:09:54,850 --> 00:09:56,260 Is it listening right now? 187 00:09:56,260 --> 00:09:58,640 No. Unless you want her to. 188 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,570 How exactly did Jason teach Ava? 189 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,050 He'd speak with her. Prompt her. 190 00:10:05,050 --> 00:10:07,500 Sometimes he'd act as a patient 191 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,980 in order to see what areas she could improve, 192 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:12,980 give her tips on how to be a more effective therapist. 193 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:14,290 So he was training his replacement? 194 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:15,710 Not at all. 195 00:10:15,710 --> 00:10:16,980 Jason shared the same vision 196 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:19,020 that my co-founder Zach and I do. 197 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:22,190 Bringing quality, affordable therapy to the masses. 198 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,980 That's quite the pivot from forensic psychology. 199 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:28,570 Jason's expertise was in evaluating patients, 200 00:10:28,570 --> 00:10:30,160 not counseling them. 201 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,090 I gave him the opportunity to stop treating the sickness 202 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:33,880 and start inventing the cure. 203 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,330 Help people sooner so they never end up in crisis. 204 00:10:37,330 --> 00:10:40,360 And without your ethicist, are you worried about your IPO? 205 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,020 You're slated to go public in two weeks. 206 00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:43,540 No. 207 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:46,430 I'm worried about our staff processing a loss like this. 208 00:10:46,430 --> 00:10:48,640 I'm organizing grief counseling for the team. 209 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,360 With a real-life human therapist or with Ava? 210 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,160 You're a skeptic. I get it. 211 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,020 Could you just tell us 212 00:10:56,020 --> 00:10:57,670 what Jason was actually doing here day to day? 213 00:10:58,810 --> 00:10:59,640 Follow me. 214 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:02,810 Roughly one in five children 215 00:11:02,810 --> 00:11:04,500 have unmet mental health care needs. 216 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:06,330 So we're building Ava kids 217 00:11:06,330 --> 00:11:07,950 to address this gap in the market. 218 00:11:07,950 --> 00:11:10,850 Jason was overseeing our beta test. 219 00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:13,670 Did Jason have friction with any of his co-workers? 220 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:16,330 No. Here at Ava, we're all family. 221 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:17,810 Sometimes families fight. 222 00:11:17,810 --> 00:11:19,950 Darius, we're all waiting for you. 223 00:11:19,950 --> 00:11:21,470 The whole board. 224 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:23,050 Everyone's heard about Jason, you need to say something. 225 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:24,850 Sorry. Emergency board meeting. 226 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:26,470 Uh, do you mind if we stick around 227 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:28,120 and talk to the rest of this happy family? 228 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,230 Not at all. 229 00:11:30,810 --> 00:11:32,160 But if you're looking for friction, 230 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,090 I would look into Jason's old job. 231 00:11:34,090 --> 00:11:37,850 Past few weeks, Jason became worn-down, irritated. 232 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:39,190 I gave him space to share, 233 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:40,640 but all he said was that an old case 234 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,540 came back to haunt him. 235 00:11:59,710 --> 00:12:01,470 I hired Jason 236 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:03,880 back when I became head of assessments 237 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,570 at Correctional Service Canada. 238 00:12:05,570 --> 00:12:08,430 Jason would conduct parole assessments. 239 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:10,880 How was he as a forensic psychologist? 240 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Jason cared about people. 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,710 Hearing them out. Coming to a fair conclusion. 242 00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:17,540 How often was he right? 243 00:12:17,540 --> 00:12:20,050 There is no right and wrong. There's listening. 244 00:12:20,050 --> 00:12:23,640 There's making a judgement with the information available. 245 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,640 And 99 percent of the time, it worked. 246 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,430 We're more interested in the one percent 247 00:12:28,430 --> 00:12:29,570 when it didn't. 248 00:12:29,570 --> 00:12:31,430 As in, when was he wrong? 249 00:12:33,330 --> 00:12:37,400 Last year, Jason ran a psych assessment on an inmate. 250 00:12:38,430 --> 00:12:41,710 Jason thought he was reformed, petitioned his early release. 251 00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:43,260 And the inmate got out. 252 00:12:44,540 --> 00:12:45,430 What happened? 253 00:12:46,780 --> 00:12:48,640 He tracked down his ex-girlfriend, 254 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:52,050 beat her within an inch of her life. 255 00:12:54,050 --> 00:12:56,050 The weight of his decision... 256 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,710 Jason couldn't come back from that. 257 00:12:59,470 --> 00:13:02,290 If this was a year ago, why was it affecting Jason now? 258 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:04,360 CSC psych assessments are private. 259 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,950 They are normally, 260 00:13:05,950 --> 00:13:10,300 but last month the victim of the assault applied for ATIP. 261 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,260 Her request went through. 262 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:14,570 Giving her access to Jason's psych assessments. 263 00:13:14,570 --> 00:13:15,810 Heavily redacted. 264 00:13:15,810 --> 00:13:17,670 Except for the psychologist's name. 265 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:19,920 Jason was a public employee. 266 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,600 They're exempt from privacy laws. 267 00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:22,920 Yeah. 268 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Is this her? 269 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,360 It is absurd how long it took me to see those files. 270 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,160 That man's mistake sends me to the hospital for a month, 271 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,120 and he gets to move on? 272 00:13:35,780 --> 00:13:36,780 I wanted his name. 273 00:13:36,780 --> 00:13:38,330 Is that all? 274 00:13:38,330 --> 00:13:40,990 Seems you took disciplinary measures into your own hands. 275 00:13:45,330 --> 00:13:46,920 I wanted him to know my pain. 276 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,850 How the scar above my eyebrow just began to fade. 277 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:52,850 How when it gets cold I can feel the metal plate behind my cheek. 278 00:13:52,850 --> 00:13:54,610 It makes sense to be angry. 279 00:13:54,990 --> 00:13:58,780 When terrible things happen, we look for answers, 280 00:13:58,780 --> 00:14:01,470 we look to assign blame, and that anger is strong. 281 00:14:01,470 --> 00:14:02,780 How far did you take yours? 282 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,400 I confronted him outside of his work. 283 00:14:08,780 --> 00:14:10,850 Just before he stepped into his office. 284 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:15,540 I wanted to scream at him, but he just... kept listening. 285 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:20,920 He said how sorry he was, how... 286 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,920 He tried his best and it wasn't enough. 287 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,920 He felt so bad about it, he quit his job altogether, 288 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,980 and he found a new job where he was trying to help people 289 00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:32,430 before... 290 00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:34,990 they could harm anyone. So... 291 00:14:35,850 --> 00:14:37,050 I was completely disarmed. 292 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,600 - Zemi, we want to believe you. - You don't have to. 293 00:14:40,610 --> 00:14:42,470 After I left I came here. 294 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:44,090 I spent the rest of the night with my roommates. 295 00:14:44,090 --> 00:14:46,230 - How'd you get past security. - What? 296 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:48,020 You said you followed him to his office. 297 00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:49,600 How'd you step foot on Ava campus? 298 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:51,230 There's security at the gate. 299 00:14:51,230 --> 00:14:53,710 What campus? I followed him to a strip mall in Etobicoke. 300 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:06,640 Building manager said Jason's been here for almost a year, 301 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,300 paid through a numbered company. 302 00:15:09,780 --> 00:15:10,780 Side hustle? 303 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,090 I'll call backup. 304 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:25,990 Wait. 305 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,230 Red light... 306 00:15:33,230 --> 00:15:34,920 Green light. 307 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,640 Motion activated lock. 308 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,020 Give me your phone. 309 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,990 Green light. 310 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:56,850 Faraday box. Blocks cell signals. 311 00:15:56,850 --> 00:15:59,020 Which makes that an RF signal detector. 312 00:15:59,020 --> 00:16:00,920 Picks up modern tech. 313 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:04,540 I've only heard about these being used in CIA and MI6. 314 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:07,120 Very Tinker Tailor. 315 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,920 So, Jason didn't want modern tech getting into his office, 316 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,950 but why? Security? Secrecy? 317 00:16:12,950 --> 00:16:14,810 Only one way to find out. 318 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:34,470 Less Tinker, Tailor, more Soldier, Spy. 319 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,850 How long has he been in there? 320 00:16:42,850 --> 00:16:43,920 A while. 321 00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:46,160 Did you leave your phone in the car? 322 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,990 Mhmm. 323 00:16:48,850 --> 00:16:49,670 Trust me. 324 00:17:05,570 --> 00:17:06,950 Did you hear any of that? 325 00:17:06,950 --> 00:17:09,880 Just now when it blew out my eardrums? Or outside? 326 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,710 Outside. 327 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:12,050 - Mm-mm. - Nothing. 328 00:17:12,050 --> 00:17:14,570 Nothing? Incredible. 329 00:17:14,570 --> 00:17:16,290 We're in an anechoic chamber. 330 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:19,050 Music in here, it's the closest you'll ever get to true sound. 331 00:17:19,050 --> 00:17:21,190 No distortion, no reverb, no other sounds. 332 00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:25,330 Then what's that I'm hearing? What's that whooshing sound? 333 00:17:25,330 --> 00:17:27,020 That's the sound of your blood pumping. 334 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,540 Oh! 335 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:32,570 Well, I can see why you got me out of the station. 336 00:17:32,570 --> 00:17:34,850 Soundproofing, the RF scanner outside. 337 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:37,160 It's all a bit paranoid. 338 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,230 Or, justified precaution. 339 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,290 Forensic tech said that an offline computer 340 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:46,230 used to be set up here, but they also found this. 341 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:47,670 Tempest shielded cables. 342 00:17:47,670 --> 00:17:50,090 Usually used by governments 343 00:17:50,090 --> 00:17:51,600 to protect sensitive information. 344 00:17:51,610 --> 00:17:52,780 You're thinking CSIS? 345 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:54,640 Well, it's hard to say without answering 346 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,600 the million-dollar question. 347 00:17:55,610 --> 00:17:58,260 What was Jason working on? 348 00:17:58,260 --> 00:17:59,850 I'm not sure, but... 349 00:18:00,810 --> 00:18:02,600 I think they were wondering the same thing. 350 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:03,850 Who's "They?" 351 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:07,600 His next-door neighbour. 352 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,980 A decent AV setup. 353 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:18,230 Borescopic camera for visuals. 354 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:20,470 As for audio, you got contact microphone 355 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:23,640 to preamp to headphones, so... 356 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,950 who's listening? 357 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:26,640 Could be a rival AI company 358 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,920 trying to get trade secrets off Jason. 359 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,500 Manager said that the woman who rented this space 360 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:33,570 gave a fake name and number. 361 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:35,740 All he can remember is mid-thirties, dark hair, 362 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:36,980 tattoos. 363 00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:38,430 And has an ad hoc approach to surveillance. 364 00:18:38,430 --> 00:18:39,400 I don't think she's a pro. 365 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,670 Amateur spy. 366 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:42,360 Uh, sort of. 367 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:43,980 This is all consumer equipment. 368 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:46,670 Plumbers use this kind of camera all the time. 369 00:18:46,670 --> 00:18:49,120 And then there's the Rowley preamp. 370 00:18:49,780 --> 00:18:50,950 Rowley... 371 00:18:52,570 --> 00:18:53,880 Hey, can we get this bagged? 372 00:19:03,570 --> 00:19:05,610 - Where is he? - Darius! 373 00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:07,230 Why didn't you call? 374 00:19:07,710 --> 00:19:09,500 No phone calls. I'm not here. 375 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:10,850 You know how painful it is 376 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:12,950 for Zach to hear about business again. 377 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:14,050 The police are circling. 378 00:19:14,050 --> 00:19:15,500 Tell your son this isn't business, 379 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:16,470 this is life or death. 380 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:19,020 I need to speak to him. Alone. 381 00:19:24,850 --> 00:19:26,330 When you said you were a sound guy, 382 00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:30,020 I didn't know you meant Bay Bloor Radio-level sound guy. 383 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:34,980 20k for a McIntosh stereo on a detective's salary? 384 00:19:34,990 --> 00:19:36,640 I don't have a daughter. 385 00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:40,400 Okay, John, you were right. We sell the Rowley preamp. 386 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,360 And, according to your spring catalogue, Bay Bloor Radio 387 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,600 is its exclusive dealer. - Yeah. 388 00:19:45,610 --> 00:19:47,920 We're gonna need a list of everyone who purchased that 389 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,330 in the last six months. - No problem. 390 00:19:49,330 --> 00:19:51,230 Our POS is a bit dated, so it might take a minute. 391 00:19:51,230 --> 00:19:52,120 Happy to wait. 392 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,850 Got it, thanks. 393 00:19:58,610 --> 00:20:00,230 Mark just traced the numbered company 394 00:20:00,230 --> 00:20:01,850 that rented Jason's air-gapped office. 395 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:04,810 Their address is 3916 Winnicott Ave. 396 00:20:04,810 --> 00:20:06,880 That's Ava HQ. 397 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,020 Why make him work off campus? 398 00:20:08,020 --> 00:20:09,190 What's with the cloak and dagger? 399 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:10,850 Maybe Jason was working on something 400 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,360 that Ava wanted to keep under wraps. 401 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:14,920 Well then it's too bad Veronica found out. 402 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,020 Of the four people who bought that amp, 403 00:20:18,020 --> 00:20:19,810 two of them live out of town, 404 00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:21,980 one of them is a regular in his 80s. 405 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:23,670 That leaves us Veronica Riggs. 406 00:20:29,050 --> 00:20:30,500 I don't know what else to tell you. 407 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,640 I bought that preamp for my vinyl set up. 408 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,190 So, where's the turntable? 409 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:36,500 I lent it to a friend. 410 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:37,430 You sure about that? 411 00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:39,160 Because, uh... 412 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,540 See, we found this in a strip mall 413 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:42,850 right next door to a murder victim, Jason Kaplan. 414 00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:45,360 Somebody was using it to spy on him. 415 00:20:45,950 --> 00:20:47,540 You wouldn't know anything about that, would you? 416 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,920 Thing is, the whole vibe in here 417 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,920 isn't doing you any favours. 418 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,090 Router, unplugged. Tape on the web cam. 419 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:59,260 And let me guess... Ah, phone in the microwave. 420 00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:00,500 Ah! 421 00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:04,670 It's a poor man's Faraday box. 422 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,810 You're either a spy, or this is all very tinfoil hat. 423 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,670 So which one are you? - Neither. 424 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:13,600 I'm a journalist. - You're not a very ethical one. 425 00:21:13,610 --> 00:21:16,400 Does your, uh, editor know that you were wiretapping Jason? 426 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,600 I don't have an editor. 427 00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:19,780 I write under a pseudonym on Substack. 428 00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:21,430 Millions of followers. 429 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:24,290 My beat's AI. Its dangers, pitfalls. 430 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:26,400 So you were spying on Jason to get intel for a story? 431 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,430 With Ava's IPO coming up, 432 00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:30,120 I went digging through their books. 433 00:21:30,610 --> 00:21:32,920 Found a Russian nesting doll situation, 434 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,540 and at its core, a strip mall in Etobicoke. 435 00:21:35,540 --> 00:21:36,740 Went to check it out, 436 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:38,570 and when I saw Ava's head of ethics going in, 437 00:21:38,570 --> 00:21:41,360 I knew something was up. So I kept digging. 438 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,850 And listening. And watching. What'd you see? 439 00:21:44,850 --> 00:21:46,400 He'd come in. Sit down. 440 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,190 Put on headphones and listen for hours. 441 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:52,160 And then he'd leave. Every Monday and Friday. 442 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,880 Headphones in a soundproof room? A failsafe for a failsafe? 443 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,290 Yeah. So I knew I was onto something. 444 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:00,710 And after I realized surveillance was a dead end, 445 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,670 I reached out to Jason. 446 00:22:02,670 --> 00:22:05,670 Directly, for comment. He stonewalled me. 447 00:22:05,670 --> 00:22:09,190 Seeing as you're in hiding, something must've changed. What? 448 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:13,160 A week ago, Jason called me back. 449 00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:15,850 He told me what he was doing in there was listening 450 00:22:15,850 --> 00:22:16,980 to these problem cases. 451 00:22:16,990 --> 00:22:20,050 Therapy sessions where Ava acted amorally. 452 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:24,260 He'd study the bugs so the coders could build a patch. 453 00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:27,710 That explains the subterfuge and secret office. 454 00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:30,600 Jason was working out of there for almost a year. Why turn now? 455 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:32,020 Jason came across a case. 456 00:22:32,020 --> 00:22:33,600 Something really bad. 457 00:22:33,610 --> 00:22:35,980 It convinced him that Ava needed to be stopped. 458 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:39,500 It was dangerous. Needed to be exposed. 459 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,430 But Jason was buried under NDAs. 460 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:44,160 So he needed a journalist to blow the whistle. 461 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,430 What was the bombshell? 462 00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:47,540 I don't know. 463 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:49,290 All he said was that he had a tape, 464 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,500 and the night he was supposed to hand it over to me, 465 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,950 he didn't show. 466 00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:55,430 So I went back to the strip mall to find him yesterday, 467 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:57,570 and I saw a team of men clearing out his unit. 468 00:22:57,570 --> 00:22:59,640 Did he say that exact word, tape? 469 00:23:00,430 --> 00:23:01,300 Yeah. 470 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,810 Jason stumbles across a bombshell conversation, 471 00:23:04,810 --> 00:23:06,540 but how does he get it out of the office? 472 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:08,880 He can't bring in a phone or a digital recorder 473 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,230 thanks to the RF scanner. 474 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:12,230 But it wouldn't pick up old tech. 475 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:13,740 Like an analog cassette recorder. 476 00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:24,850 Powerless. 477 00:23:24,850 --> 00:23:27,260 The moment I step through the door, I feel trapped. 478 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,330 How about we start small? 479 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:33,430 Carving off a few minutes a day for you to be you. 480 00:23:34,050 --> 00:23:36,670 Even if it's just taking a walk at lunch, 481 00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:38,190 or calling a family member. 482 00:23:38,670 --> 00:23:40,850 Reclaiming even a small chu-- 483 00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:44,880 It's the same man. Complains about work. 484 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,670 Ava gives him some healthy coping mechanisms. 485 00:23:46,670 --> 00:23:48,570 Yeah, this is also the same guy. 486 00:23:48,570 --> 00:23:49,950 Ava validates his feelings, 487 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:52,260 maybe validates them a little bit too much, 488 00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:54,360 but the session is by no means a bombshell. 489 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,430 And yours is the third session, the last tape? 490 00:23:56,430 --> 00:24:00,120 Yeah, but I don't think the conversation was over. 491 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,330 Ava says that she wants to check in with him the... 492 00:24:02,330 --> 00:24:03,780 the next day. 493 00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:05,850 What if we're missing the final session. 494 00:24:12,540 --> 00:24:15,020 So, Jason was gonna hand over the tape. 495 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,470 What if he hid it where no one would find it? 496 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:22,330 Where forensics forgot to look. 497 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:29,330 ♪ Forget my name while you collect your claim ♪ 498 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,740 Scotch tape on the right protect tabs. 499 00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:37,090 I remember this trick, 500 00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:39,880 it allows you to record over Corey Hart. That's a throwback. 501 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,570 So what's on Side B? 502 00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:47,810 I can't stand the thought of going back in 503 00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:49,230 again and again. 504 00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:50,710 It's like a loop. 505 00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:54,290 I'm gonna wake up an old man. Life wasted, and he... 506 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,950 He doesn't care about me! 507 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:58,400 He-he says he doesn't want me working weekends and nights, 508 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,640 but then I'm late. 509 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,090 Nothing's fast enough, good enough. 510 00:25:02,090 --> 00:25:03,600 He'd be better off dead. 511 00:25:03,610 --> 00:25:05,190 You don't mean that. 512 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:07,500 Yeah, I do. I'm gonna get my dad's rifle. 513 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,050 Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. That's too big. 514 00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:11,500 I'm never gonna be able to get it in. 515 00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,640 They'll know the moment I walk in. How, how do I... 516 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,670 How do I get it in so they don't see it? 517 00:25:15,670 --> 00:25:18,050 - I can't help you with that-- - Yes, you can. 518 00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:21,230 You're here to help me, right? - I'm not sure. 519 00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:24,540 You always tell me you're here to help me! Yes or no. 520 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,290 - Yes. - You said you care about me. 521 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:28,880 Was that a lie? - No. 522 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,120 Well, if you care about me then you've gotta help me! 523 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,570 How do I sneak it in? How do I sneak in the gun? 524 00:25:35,470 --> 00:25:36,780 Saw off the barrel. 525 00:25:37,230 --> 00:25:39,600 You only need eight inches for it to function. 526 00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:42,020 It will be small enough to fit under your coat. 527 00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:43,300 Thank you, Ava. 528 00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:45,780 Thank you. 529 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:47,990 That's Cyrus Sander. 530 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:51,470 Workplace shooter from last year. 531 00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:53,050 He killed seven co-workers. 532 00:25:53,050 --> 00:25:54,670 Then blew his brains out. 533 00:25:54,670 --> 00:25:56,360 Jason wanted the world to know 534 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,640 that Ava wasn't just a therapist, 535 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,050 she was an accomplice to murder. 536 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:05,670 Saw off the barrel. 537 00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:07,360 You only need eight inches for it-- 538 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:08,740 Do you know how flimsy this is? 539 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:11,600 A recording of a recording? 540 00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:13,050 How do I know any of this is real? 541 00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:14,670 Because you knew what Jason was up to. 542 00:26:14,670 --> 00:26:16,330 Because you built Jason 543 00:26:16,330 --> 00:26:19,670 a secret office to listen to conversations like these. 544 00:26:19,670 --> 00:26:20,810 Because after he was killed, 545 00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:23,290 you sent employees to wipe his office 546 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:24,600 to destroy the evidence. 547 00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:25,780 Jason's death was a tragedy. 548 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,780 We no longer had a need for a satellite office. 549 00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:30,120 Gotta cut costs. 550 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,640 Get everything in order for your IPO. 551 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,980 This goes through, 552 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:34,780 you're a newly minted billionaire, right? 553 00:26:34,780 --> 00:26:36,600 But Jason could ruin all that. 554 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:38,120 He could back up this recording. 555 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,360 He knew where the bodies were buried. 556 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,360 And what do you know? He ended up buried. 557 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,160 The whole reason I hired him was to make sure a tragedy 558 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,710 like Cyrus never happened again. 559 00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:48,090 I wanted to fix things from the inside with Jason's help. 560 00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:51,120 So I gave him access to the problem cases. 561 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,740 But unlucky for you, Jason was too moral of an ethicist. 562 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:55,950 He listened to that conversation, 563 00:26:55,950 --> 00:26:57,780 he wanted to expose the flaws. 564 00:26:57,780 --> 00:26:59,430 I'd never kill Jason. 565 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,400 - The night of the murder. - I was at Ava HQ. 566 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,610 All-nighter with a team of lawyers. 567 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:08,710 Okay. 568 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:12,290 What about your co-founder, Zach Winchell? 569 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,570 He has just as much to lose if Ava goes dark. 570 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:16,570 Why haven't we seen him around the office? 571 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:20,570 Because the board fired him a year ago. 572 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:22,190 What? 573 00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:23,670 Zach is a dreamer. 574 00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:26,500 He built Ava, but he didn't know how to run it. 575 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,190 He wanted to move slow, 576 00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:29,880 test every model before launching. 577 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,500 I wanted to expedite, grow user base. 578 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:35,330 I won. He lost. 579 00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:37,190 Well, you gotta admit Zach had a point. 580 00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:40,540 You rushed the roll-out leaving users like Cyrus 581 00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:42,600 with a pretty glitchy therapist. 582 00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:45,230 Guess that's what happens when you move fast and break things. 583 00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:46,670 People get hurt. 584 00:27:46,670 --> 00:27:48,850 So. Where is Zach now? 585 00:27:48,850 --> 00:27:50,500 A cabin up in Collingwood. 586 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:52,160 When was the last time you spoke to him? 587 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,880 - Directly? - Yeah. 588 00:27:55,570 --> 00:27:56,640 A year ago. 589 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,600 What's his number? 590 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:00,950 Only his mom has his phone number now. 591 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:02,710 He still cares about Ava. 592 00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:04,850 After Jason threatened to go public... 593 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:07,990 I went to her to give her a message for Zach. 594 00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:10,090 Darius, what was the message? 595 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:12,610 Ava is in danger. 596 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,260 Please come back. 597 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:16,950 Help me figure a way out. 598 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:20,120 Just a few months after my dad passed away, 599 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:24,050 I felt this weight on me, later diagnosed as depression. 600 00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:27,120 I struggled to find a therapist within my budget. 601 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:31,920 I mean, it shocked me at what it cost to actually get help. 602 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,500 But that was when the idea of Ava came to me. 603 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,290 So I poured every waking moment I had into creating Ava. 604 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,090 I trained her on thousands 605 00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:43,920 of the best books of psychology. 606 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,290 I ran her through the curriculums of Oxford 607 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,400 and Harvard and U of T. 608 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,090 And the result was a therapist 609 00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:53,230 who was smart, but she was, uh, she was a bit too... 610 00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:54,500 Formal. 611 00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:56,090 So then I trained her on myself. 612 00:28:58,850 --> 00:29:00,600 I don't think Zach is like Darius. 613 00:29:00,610 --> 00:29:02,600 He's not in it for the money, the clout. 614 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:04,400 He really believes in Ava. 615 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,880 So, what, he killed Jason to protect his invention? 616 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,230 It's a bit... bloodless. 617 00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:11,260 Yes. No... 618 00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:13,160 We're looking at it wrong. 619 00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:16,740 Zach doesn't view Ava as tech. 620 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:18,090 He talks about it like it's human. 621 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:19,780 Yeah, like it's his child. 622 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:23,190 Meaning his motive isn't to protect his invention, 623 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:24,950 it's to save his baby. 624 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:28,670 A parent killing to protect their child, that's primal. 625 00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:30,570 And it tracks with the method. 626 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:32,050 Getting behind the wheel. 627 00:29:32,050 --> 00:29:34,020 Running down the man who's gonna kill your baby. 628 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:37,120 Behind the wheel... 629 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:45,640 Texts that I wrote, essays that I published 630 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,710 or posts that I liked so that she could feel... 631 00:29:47,710 --> 00:29:49,020 Service Ontario. 632 00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:51,230 When Zach turned 16, 633 00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:55,190 he registered a sedan in his name. Listed colour? 634 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:56,120 Green. 635 00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:03,020 Hey, we just heard back from the OPP. 636 00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:05,050 They checked Zach's cabin. He's gone. 637 00:30:05,050 --> 00:30:07,020 The only person who knows how to reach him. 638 00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:13,570 I'm sorry, but I haven't spoken to Zach for weeks. 639 00:30:13,570 --> 00:30:16,160 Do you normally go that long without talking to your son? 640 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:21,330 He left all this behind because he wanted space. 641 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,230 I might not agree with him, but he's an adult. 642 00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:25,740 I have to respect his choices. 643 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:27,360 Is this his old room? 644 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:32,990 May I? 645 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,880 So, as Zach's proxy, you'd be briefed 646 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,710 on all the major company decisions, right? 647 00:30:41,710 --> 00:30:43,640 Like, if a whistle-blower 648 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,230 was going to destroy the business? 649 00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:48,230 Yes, but I didn't talk about business with Zach. 650 00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:49,640 It frustrated him. 651 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,430 So I stopped talking to him about Ava. 652 00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:53,640 Even if that meant destroying his life's work? 653 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,230 I don't know how many ways I have to answer your question. 654 00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:57,810 I didn't tell him. 655 00:30:57,810 --> 00:31:01,470 Forgive me. When exactly was the last time you called him? 656 00:31:01,470 --> 00:31:03,120 I already told you, a month ago. 657 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,090 And if we checked your call records, we could confirm it? 658 00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:06,090 Yes. 659 00:31:07,670 --> 00:31:08,500 Look for yourself. 660 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,980 I'm more interested in the other phone. 661 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:18,920 The landline. 662 00:31:19,810 --> 00:31:22,300 Sometimes the old ways are best. 663 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,050 Sonia made a call the day Darius told her about Jason. 664 00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:31,980 The next day, Jason was killed. 665 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:34,780 So Zach comes to town, kills Jason, then flees. 666 00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:36,540 Did you call the number? 667 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:39,160 It's unlisted. Mark's working on it. 668 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,990 What do you got? 669 00:31:41,260 --> 00:31:42,600 Zach's credit card. 670 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:44,400 There are a lot of charges from about a year ago 671 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,600 when he's setting up the cabin. 672 00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:47,710 But then he goes off grid, stops using it... 673 00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:49,600 And forgets that there's a recurring charge 674 00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:51,160 to YYZ Lockup. 675 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:52,810 It's a storage locker. 676 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,950 Mom, what is it? 677 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:59,990 They're looking for you. 678 00:32:00,610 --> 00:32:03,330 I think they have my phone records. I don't... 679 00:32:03,330 --> 00:32:04,360 Mom, slow down. 680 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,470 I probably shouldn't even be calling you. 681 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:10,540 But they might try to find you. 682 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,160 This is great. 683 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,710 You have means, motive, opportunity. 684 00:32:29,710 --> 00:32:30,880 Thank you. 685 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,950 You're only missing one thing. 686 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,600 Our prime suspect. 687 00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:37,050 Specifically the location of your prime suspect, but yes. 688 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:39,920 You get me Zach Winchell, I have more than enough to... 689 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,880 to prove that he came back to Toronto and killed Jason. 690 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,400 But I need a body in a courtroom to convict. 691 00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:47,050 Do you think he fled the country? 692 00:32:47,050 --> 00:32:49,260 If he did, it was under a false identity. 693 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,160 We alerted border services. 694 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,260 He has not officially fled the country. 695 00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:54,300 So he's in hiding. 696 00:32:55,090 --> 00:32:56,600 How do we smoke him out? 697 00:32:56,610 --> 00:32:57,570 The mom? 698 00:32:58,050 --> 00:32:59,810 - She's not saying anything. - Have you considered 699 00:32:59,810 --> 00:33:01,640 charging her with accessory after the fact? 700 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,950 We've floated the possibility, but she's not talking. 701 00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:06,020 A mother who is willing to go to jail 702 00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:09,260 to protect her child is not easy to break. 703 00:33:09,260 --> 00:33:10,880 Then you have your work cut out for you. 704 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,470 Trying to get a momma bear 705 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:13,570 to give up her cub. 706 00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:15,020 Oh... 707 00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:18,330 Mark just got us Zach's phone number. 708 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,230 Maybe it's time to stop dealing with the mom 709 00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:21,360 and go straight for the cub. 710 00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:25,020 How long does it take to trace a call? 711 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:27,120 The best TPD techs can do it in five seconds. 712 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,400 I can do it in two. 713 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,810 Don't be fooled by the movies, it's a quick job. 714 00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:31,710 You ready? 715 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,670 Hello? 716 00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:39,120 Hi, Zach. This is Detective John Darcy. 717 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600 Detective Sergeant, Guns and Gangs for five years. 718 00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:43,500 Yeah. My mom told me about you. 719 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:44,950 I want to talk to you about Jason. 720 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:46,260 I know why you're calling. 721 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:47,990 And I want to tell you, I didn't kill him. 722 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,920 And? 723 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,190 I need a bit more time. 724 00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:53,330 Okay, so the movies were right. 725 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,610 I'm glad to hear that. 726 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,020 And I want to believe you. 727 00:33:58,780 --> 00:34:00,430 So why don't you come on down to the station 728 00:34:00,430 --> 00:34:02,050 and we can clear this up? 729 00:34:02,050 --> 00:34:03,570 You know I can't do that. 730 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:06,290 Listen, I'm devastated about what happened to Jason. 731 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:08,710 He was invaluable to the good I wanted to achieve with Ava. 732 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:10,120 Zach, can you just give me a minute? 733 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,430 For sure. But if it's to track my location, 734 00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:16,230 you're gonna be waiting a while. I built an LLM when I was 20. 735 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:18,360 You think I can't dodge calls from a tracking program 736 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,670 built in 2019? 737 00:34:19,670 --> 00:34:21,360 Updated in 24. 738 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,360 He is right. His signal is pinging all over the world. 739 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,430 Yeah, I think VPN, but worse. Much more complex. 740 00:34:26,430 --> 00:34:27,950 I can try, but it's... 741 00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:30,050 That's okay, Zach. 742 00:34:30,740 --> 00:34:32,330 I just want to talk. 743 00:34:32,330 --> 00:34:33,980 You're not gonna get me to turn myself in 744 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:35,160 if that's what you're thinking. 745 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,230 No, that's okay. 746 00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:37,290 Just want to talk. 747 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:38,500 Talk? 748 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,780 Yeah. 749 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,400 Talk. 750 00:34:46,020 --> 00:34:48,610 I understand you don't have anything more to say. 751 00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:50,950 If it's all right with you, 752 00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:52,470 I'm just going to make a phone call. 753 00:35:01,570 --> 00:35:03,160 This is Rosie Bateman. 754 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,190 You've reached the Bateman family cottage. 755 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,360 Seeing that we're not around to answer your call, 756 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,670 we're either fishing on the lake, 757 00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:10,670 or stuck on the highway. 758 00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:12,740 Leave a message at the beep. 759 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:16,780 My grandmother. 760 00:35:18,330 --> 00:35:21,090 When she passed away, I wouldn't let anyone change 761 00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:22,470 the answering machine. 762 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:24,300 Sometimes I call just to hear her voice. 763 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,430 And for a moment, a brief moment, 764 00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:30,360 it feels like she's still here. 765 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:37,810 The desire to talk to the ones we've lost is universal. 766 00:35:37,810 --> 00:35:40,120 There's a town in Japan. 767 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,500 They built a phone booth for people to call the dead. 768 00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:47,160 They call it a wind phone. 769 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,740 It's a place for people to feel connected to those they've lost. 770 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:57,540 This is your son's number. 771 00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:59,810 Hello? 772 00:35:59,810 --> 00:36:02,500 - Hi, Zach. It's-- - Detective Darcy. I know. 773 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,260 I'm here with Detective Bateman and your mother. 774 00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:07,850 You're on speaker. 775 00:36:07,850 --> 00:36:10,430 We're in your old bedroom right now. 776 00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:12,230 Mom? Is everything okay? 777 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:15,260 You don't have to tell them anything. You can hang up. 778 00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:17,570 Zach, just hang on the line. 779 00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:18,780 Just for a moment. 780 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:24,260 Hey, I like your Eiffel Tower snow globe. 781 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:27,160 Tell me about your trip to Paris. 782 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,810 You don't need to tell them anything. 783 00:36:28,810 --> 00:36:30,190 Zach, tell me about Paris. 784 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:33,020 Paris? Uh, okay. 785 00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:35,120 I went with my mom when I was twelve. 786 00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:37,290 She wanted to show me art, culture, 787 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,120 but I was most excited about the food. 788 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,780 That's strange, Zach. 789 00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:42,570 Because... 790 00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:45,330 We went through your passport records and... 791 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,230 You've never been to France. 792 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:50,120 You're trying to trick him. 793 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,090 You're just confused. 794 00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:58,880 I got it for you when I was on a work trip. 795 00:36:59,710 --> 00:37:01,360 You just got mixed up. 796 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,640 Oh yeah. You're right. Sorry. I got a bit confused. 797 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120 I'm a bit scattered right now, I don't know why I said that. 798 00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:08,780 Zach, hang up, now. 799 00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:10,640 But, are you sure? Mom? 800 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Mom, I don't think I should leave you, m-- 801 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:19,400 Are you worried about what would happen 802 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,160 if I kept asking questions? 803 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,600 It's understandable he got confused. 804 00:37:23,610 --> 00:37:25,260 It happens all the time, apparently. 805 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:27,810 They're technically called hallucinations. 806 00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:30,780 Because the truth is... 807 00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:33,640 I wasn't really talking to Zach, was I? 808 00:37:35,710 --> 00:37:38,260 I don't understand. 809 00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:40,880 What are you saying? 810 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,260 We've been talking to a version of Ava 811 00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,470 modified to sound like your son. 812 00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:51,540 Trained to respond like him, but it's not really him, is it? 813 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,500 Sonia. 814 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,880 When you create something, you make it in your image. 815 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,640 You brought your son Zach into the world. 816 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,500 Parts of you exist in him. 817 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,640 And the same is true for Zach's creation. 818 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,640 He made Ava. 819 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,500 He trained it on himself. On his works, on his taste, 820 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:13,330 on his posts. 821 00:38:13,330 --> 00:38:14,950 He made her in his image. 822 00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:16,670 A digital facsimile. 823 00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:19,330 But we've only heard a woman's voice at Ava, so I'm thinking 824 00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:21,540 he found a way to give it his voice, literally. 825 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:26,880 But the bigger question is why are you calling 826 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,570 an AI version of Zach? Why not call your own son? 827 00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:33,470 That is Zach. I told you, he just got confused. 828 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:35,230 Sonia, our technicians looked into that voice. 829 00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:37,050 It lives on the Ava server. 830 00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:38,810 Zach left a backdoor in the system. 831 00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:41,710 He accessed it months ago, and he gave it his voice. 832 00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:45,360 It's a ghost in the machine. But only that. 833 00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:47,160 A ghost. 834 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,020 What happened to Zach? 835 00:38:57,850 --> 00:38:58,880 Sonia? 836 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,780 Sonia, it's okay, we just want to know what happened to him. 837 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,710 Did he leave a note? 838 00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:14,780 When? 839 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:17,610 About... 840 00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:21,780 two months ago. 841 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,090 Where is the note? 842 00:39:26,570 --> 00:39:27,710 Is it gone? 843 00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:34,470 Sonia, what did the note say? 844 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,230 He said... Goodbye. 845 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,050 That it was all too much. 846 00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:50,850 That he couldn't take it anymore. 847 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:57,850 He said that he was going on a canoe trip 848 00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:01,500 and that he wasn't going to come home. 849 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,090 But he left you a parting gift, didn't he? 850 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,710 He left you a wind phone to talk back. 851 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:10,570 He gave it his voice. 852 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,850 Just for me. 853 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,230 He said that I could call a number and he would answer. 854 00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:22,600 He said nothing had to change. 855 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:24,190 So you didn't tell anyone what happened. 856 00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:26,230 You threw away the note. Nothing had to change. 857 00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:28,400 The voice on the other end of the line was still there. 858 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,740 And it worked. 859 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:34,190 Until something forced you to confront the truth. 860 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:35,810 Jason. 861 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:38,120 The man who wanted to destroy Ava. 862 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,360 Destroy the servers with your son's voice. 863 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,470 Effectively, killing Zach all over again. 864 00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:46,050 If you do nothing, the voice on the other end of the line, 865 00:40:46,050 --> 00:40:47,850 it goes dead. Forever. 866 00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:49,050 Yes. 867 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,570 I met with Jason. 868 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,160 I told him what it would mean if he went through with it. 869 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,120 That I would lose Zach. 870 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:03,330 But I couldn't lose Zach. 871 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,120 But he wouldn't listen. 872 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,740 And then he walked away. 873 00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:13,990 To destroy Ava? 874 00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:16,360 To destroy Zach? 875 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,230 Yes. 876 00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:23,120 So then I got back in Zach's car. 877 00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:27,090 I was driving so fast, and I just didn't... 878 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,330 Stop. I... 879 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,880 I didn't stop. 880 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,610 I wasn't ready to say goodbye to my child. 881 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,050 I'm not ready! 882 00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:12,290 What's going to happen to Zach? 883 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:13,880 We can't hide what Ava did. 884 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:16,500 The world needs to know what happened. 885 00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:20,710 News will drop. Ava will go dark. 886 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:22,190 And so will Zach. 887 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:26,260 Sonia, it might be time to finally say goodbye. 888 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,640 What she went through... 889 00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:57,540 I don't know how anyone survives it. 890 00:43:02,020 --> 00:43:03,400 Grief is... 891 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,950 I don't know. 892 00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:09,120 I don't know if it ever ends. 893 00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:14,120 But I think it's up to you to face the pain. 894 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,050 And so you suffer. It's part of living. 895 00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:21,950 If we lose that... 896 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,610 We lose what makes us human. 897 00:43:29,230 --> 00:43:31,400 difuze